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Post by myke on Jul 5, 2006 18:01:44 GMT -8
What is an IP and how to they work?What are IP's and how to do they work seem to be a question that surfaces a lot here on ProBoards Support. Let's start with what an IP actually is. IP stands for Internet Protocol. An IP is a packet-based protocol for delivering data across networks. In simpler terms, an IP is a set of numbers assigned to your ISP account, not unlike a telephone number, or a license plate on a car. When sending data out to a server (Internet) your IP is included, kind of like how when calling someone on the telephone, your phone number is included on one's caller ID. The IP identifies the location from which the information is being sent (ie; a server) Everyone posting here has an IP assigned to them. Static IP'sA static IP means that your IP will remain the same each time you sign on to the Internet. This IP address will never change. Dynamic IP'sA dynamic IP means that your IP may alternate each time you sign on to the Internet and you will end up with an IP address that has been used by others on your ISP. America Online is notorious for this, and often when assigning a new IP to a member who has signed on this may lead to problems of a member suddenly finding themselves banned, for no apparent reason, as a dynamic IP user is issued an IP that has been previously banned from the forum for another member's misconduct. Dynamic IP's make it difficult to effectively ban members, because once they log back in, their IP may have changed slightly, which will allow them access to the forum again. This brings us to wildcard banning. Wildcard BanningMost dynamic IP's only alternate through the last two numbers of the entire IP. For example, lets say a member with the IP of 123.456.789.012 has caused trouble, and has been banned from the forum, so you ban the IP listed above. But the next day, their dynamic IP assigns them the IP of 123.456.789.013, they will now be free to come back, unbanned to the forum. A measure to prevent this is wildcard banning. Instead of banning 123.456.789.012 you may want to ban 123.456.789.01* This way, no matter how many time their dynamic IP changes, the wild-card will keep them banned. However, if it changes slightly more, you may want to wildcard ban like 123.456.789.0*.* Once in a while, their IP will change not only the last set of numbers, but the middle set as well, in which case you would want to wild-card ban like this: 123.456.***.*** however that is not recommended, as you may be inadvertently ban a lot of potential members from users of the same ISP. The following has been contributed by All Seeing EyesIn the UK we have several 'cheap' ISP services, they usually offer full speed for a set amount of time (maybe 1 month) then it goes down to 1/2 or 1/4 speed. One place that offers this is a Supermarket chain, and users have shown to be using the same IP. So here's my theory: The cheap provider buys a router, connects it to the main provider, then sells the resulting shared connection, a bit like having several PC's at home like this. The cheap provider might pay a higher price for the connection, but makes a lot more from reselling the connection to multiple users. Sometimes the main provider might also offer cheaper deals in the same way and because they are on the same router, they all have the same IP. This has been a joint collaberation of xkamelx and All Seeing Eyes with a special thanks to ConqueringWolf
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Post by ircrazyd on Jul 5, 2006 18:05:04 GMT -8
Nice topic. This should help new people.
I have never used a wildcard ban, but I have heard of it. I dont have enough reason to use it unless for a unfrequant spammer. =)
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Post by D.D on Jul 6, 2006 5:55:10 GMT -8
If you don't know your own IP, here's a simple way to find out.
If you're using Windows9x/Me, type WINIPCFG.exe in the command prompt
For Windows 2K/XP, type IPCONFIG.exe instead
If you have your ISP assign you dynamic IP, you could simply change your IP in the following steps:
1. Go to Start----> Run 2. type cmd.exe and enter 3. type in ipconfig /flushdns 4. type in ipconfig /release 5. type in ipconfig /renew 6. exit
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Post by crazyone on Jul 6, 2006 8:34:32 GMT -8
If you don't know your own IP, here's a simple way to find out. If you're using Windows9x/Me, type WINIPCFG.exe in the command prompt For Windows 2K/XP, type IPCONFIG.exe instead If you have your ISP assign you dynamic IP, you could simply change your IP in the following steps: 1. Go to Start----> Run 2. type cmd.exe and enter 3. type in ipconfig /flushdns 4. type in ipconfig /release 5. type in ipconfig /renew 6. exit You can also go to one of the thousands sites that show you your ip. An example is: www.whatsmyip.org/ . Instead of doing such a difficult process
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Post by «The Silver Lining»™ on Jul 6, 2006 9:32:46 GMT -8
What is an IP and how to they work?What are IP's and how to do they work seem to be a question that surfaces a lot here on ProBoards Support. Let's start with what an IP actually is. IP stands for Internet Protocol. An IP is a packet-based protocol for delivering data across networks. In simpler terms, an IP is a set of numbers assigned to your ISP account, not unlike a telephone number, or a license plate on a car. When sending data out to a server (Internet) your IP is included, kind of like how when calling someone on the telephone, your phone number is included on one's caller ID. The IP identifies the location from which the information is being sent (ie; a server) Everyone posting here has an IP assigned to them. Static IP'sA static IP means that your IP will remain the same each time you sign on to the Internet. This IP address will never change. Dynamic IP'sA dynamic IP means that your IP may alternate each time you sign on to the Internet and you will end up with an IP address that has been used by others on your ISP. America Online is notorious for this, and often when assigning a new IP to a member who has signed on this may lead to problems of a member suddenly finding themselves banned, for no apparent reason, as a dynamic IP user is issued an IP that has been previously banned from the forum for another member's misconduct. Dynamic IP's make it difficult to effectively ban members, because once they log back in, their IP may have changed slightly, which will allow them access to the forum again. This brings us to wildcard banning. Wildcard BanningMost dynamic IP's only alternate through the last two numbers of the entire IP. For example, lets say a member with the IP of 123.456.789 has caused trouble, and has been banned from the forum, so you ban the IP listed above. But the next day, their dynamic IP assigns them the IP of 123.456.788, they will now be free to come back, unbanned to the forum. A measure to prevent this is wildcard banning. Instead of banning 123.456.789.012 you may want to ban 123.456.789.01* This way, no matter how many time their dynamic IP changes, the wild-card will keep them banned. However, if it changes slightly more, you may want to wildcard ban like 123.456.789.0*.* Once in a while, their IP will change not only the last set of numbers, but the middle set as well, in which case you would want to wild-card ban like this: 123.***.*** however that is not recommended, as you may be inadvertently ban a lot of potential members from users of the same ISP. The following has been contributed by All Seeing EyesIn the UK we have several 'cheap' ISP services, they usually offer full speed for a set amount of time (maybe 1 month) then it goes down to 1/2 or 1/4 speed. One place that offers this is a Supermarket chain, and users have shown to be using the same IP. So here's my theory: The cheap provider buys a router, connects it to the main provider, then sells the resulting shared connection, a bit like having several PC's at home like this. The cheap provider might pay a higher price for the connection, but makes a lot more from reselling the connection to multiple users. Sometimes the main provider might also offer cheaper deals in the same way and because they are on the same router, they all have the same IP. This has been a joint collaberation of xkamelx and All Seeing Eyes with a special thanks to ConqueringWolf this will deffinatly come in useful
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Post by w00tz0rs on Jul 6, 2006 10:31:28 GMT -8
Nice information. I see so many questions about IP addresses, and why they are either similar or what they even ARE for that matter.
So, nice thread. I feel this will help many out.
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Post by Snakeair on Jul 6, 2006 12:34:29 GMT -8
What is an IP and how to they work?What are IP's and how to do they work seem to be a question that surfaces a lot here on ProBoards Support. Let's start with what an IP actually is. IP stands for Internet Protocol. An IP is a packet-based protocol for delivering data across networks. In simpler terms, an IP is a set of numbers assigned to your ISP account, not unlike a telephone number, or a license plate on a car. When sending data out to a server (Internet) your IP is included, kind of like how when calling someone on the telephone, your phone number is included on one's caller ID. The IP identifies the location from which the information is being sent (ie; a server) Everyone posting here has an IP assigned to them. Static IP'sA static IP means that your IP will remain the same each time you sign on to the Internet. This IP address will never change. Dynamic IP'sA dynamic IP means that your IP may alternate each time you sign on to the Internet and you will end up with an IP address that has been used by others on your ISP. America Online is notorious for this, and often when assigning a new IP to a member who has signed on this may lead to problems of a member suddenly finding themselves banned, for no apparent reason, as a dynamic IP user is issued an IP that has been previously banned from the forum for another member's misconduct. Dynamic IP's make it difficult to effectively ban members, because once they log back in, their IP may have changed slightly, which will allow them access to the forum again. This brings us to wildcard banning. Wildcard BanningMost dynamic IP's only alternate through the last two numbers of the entire IP. For example, lets say a member with the IP of 123.456.789 has caused trouble, and has been banned from the forum, so you ban the IP listed above. But the next day, their dynamic IP assigns them the IP of 123.456.788, they will now be free to come back, unbanned to the forum. A measure to prevent this is wildcard banning. Instead of banning 123.456.789.012 you may want to ban 123.456.789.01* This way, no matter how many time their dynamic IP changes, the wild-card will keep them banned. However, if it changes slightly more, you may want to wildcard ban like 123.456.789.0*.* Once in a while, their IP will change not only the last set of numbers, but the middle set as well, in which case you would want to wild-card ban like this: 123.***.*** however that is not recommended, as you may be inadvertently ban a lot of potential members from users of the same ISP. The following has been contributed by All Seeing EyesIn the UK we have several 'cheap' ISP services, they usually offer full speed for a set amount of time (maybe 1 month) then it goes down to 1/2 or 1/4 speed. One place that offers this is a Supermarket chain, and users have shown to be using the same IP. So here's my theory: The cheap provider buys a router, connects it to the main provider, then sells the resulting shared connection, a bit like having several PC's at home like this. The cheap provider might pay a higher price for the connection, but makes a lot more from reselling the connection to multiple users. Sometimes the main provider might also offer cheaper deals in the same way and because they are on the same router, they all have the same IP. This has been a joint collaberation of xkamelx and All Seeing Eyes with a special thanks to ConqueringWolf this will deffinatly come in useful Do you have any advice or feed back about the topic at hand? You're reply breaks the rules for this board. Please read them when you get a chance. support.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=promotion&action=display&n=1&thread=28689&page=1#1097890855Try to provide a few sentence's at least.
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Post by narutard on Jul 11, 2006 21:34:59 GMT -8
This helped me alot for my forum, and it taught me alot. It allowed me to fully understand Ip's and its definition. Thank you for posting this up. I have a question. Do all forums show Ip's for members, cause' I noticed some don't and wondered why.
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Post by Slacker on Jul 11, 2006 22:26:24 GMT -8
Nice topic. Hopefully this will dispell some fears over I.P. addresses (being hacked by it and the like). Also useful about why some AOL users find themselves banned. I have a question. Do all forums show Ip's for members, cause' I noticed some don't and wondered why. All ProBoards forums will display the user's IP to the admin and any staff with the ability. It would appear in the bottom corner of thier posts as 123.456.789.012 To regular users you cannot view I.P. addresses it will simply show as " Logged" in the bottom right-hand corner of thier posts. As for other service providers I do not know and that isn't allowed to be discussed here.
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Post by cybrcomm on Jul 13, 2006 12:46:01 GMT -8
I am so glad you posted this i never heard of it and i have been having trouble with someone posting hundreds of foreign language links to blogs etc. every morning and i've banned 8 of the IP's but he/she still keeps coming back. So thank you so much i'll give it a try
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Post by Former Member on Jul 13, 2006 12:56:59 GMT -8
Very interesting thanks for that info xkamelx and All Seeing Eyes and ConqueringWolf
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Post by Enchant on Jul 13, 2006 19:27:45 GMT -8
Very interesting thanks for that info xkamelx and All Seeing Eyes and ConqueringWolf Please put a bit more thought into your post in accordance to the rules or do not post. This is a discussion .....not for spam comments.
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Post by Former Member on Jul 14, 2006 0:53:18 GMT -8
Ok sorry I just wanted to congratulate the authors as it taught me a few things
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Post by Snakeair on Jul 14, 2006 4:10:24 GMT -8
That's nice Higgerz, but please try to add your own comments about the thread topic. Anything you would like to add about wildcard banning? Keep this in mind next time mate.
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Post by Ben Woodruff on Jul 14, 2006 18:24:30 GMT -8
AOL is one of the "cheap ISPs" that branch off Time Warner's trunk. So it's almost exactly what you described kamel. However it's not as simple as hooking up a router. But you get the idea.
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